(I was so pleased when
I came up with the title of this post, aren’t alliterations awesome!)
Have I mentioned before on this blog that I hate Marius Pontmercy?
I think it’s come up…. Anyway, just In case I haven’t made it clear how
much I dislike him I thought I’d compile a list of the five biggest moments in Les
Miserables (Novel and musical) that I thought Marius acted like a complete moron.
It was really hard cutting it down to just five moments, but good God if I
listed every moment where he acted like a moron I’d be here all night! I don’t
think there’s enough time in the world for that!!!
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(I have a handy key now to illustrate when I’m talking about
Les Mis the novel or Les Mis the musical or both, since it’s been brought
to my attention that I don’t always make myself clear)
5: Pretending to be
poor when he’s not (Novelverse)
So….for all the times that I’ve mentioned that I hate Marius
I can kind of understand his conflict with his grandfather. Yeah, the man
pretty much stole him from his father and lied to him throughout his entire
childhood, that sucks. However I don’t agree with how Marius behaved when he found out the
truth.
There was no need for him to run away from his home and
pretend to be poor. At that point in the book his grandfather was like 90 years
old, all he needed to do was to just suck it up and deal with it because the odds are he wouldn't have to
live with it much longer anyway.
There was no need for him to act like a twat and pretend to
be something he’s not; in fact I think that’s what bothers me most about Marius
as a character. In the novel there’s a whole big section of the story devoted
to Marius’s “suffering” but to me he never suffered like some of the other
characters did, like Fantine for example. All he ever needed to do was swallow
his pride for once in his life and go home and be a bourgeois again, and to me that
isn’t suffering, that’s just moronic.
4: “Cosettes” Handkerchief (Novelverse)
This was actually only a minor moment in the book, but I find it so hilariously moronic that I have to mention it.
In case you don’t remember about the handkerchief basically
at one point during his stalking of Cosette Marius finds a handkerchief left on
the bench she usually sits on in the Luxembourg gardens, with the initials U.F
sewn onto them, naturally Marius assumes it must be hers and that Cosettes name
must be Ursule because it’s the only girls name beginning with U. He then goes
onto covet the damn thing like it’s the only piece of Cosette he can hang onto
in life since he doesn’t know where she lives.
Awww, well that’s kinda sweet right? WRONG!! Because the
handkerchief actually belongs to Valjean! U.F was the initials of the fake name
he was using when he was living with Cosette in the convent. Marius has totally
been fawning over an elderly mans handkerchief for months, that’s both gross
and kind of hilarious at the same time!
I would have really loved to have seen his reaction when he
found out whose handkerchief it really was, it would have been so awesomely
horrifying for him because you know he was totally whacking off into that thing
every night. I know Victor Hugo wrote Marius and Cosette as personality free
innocent beings, but come on; he was totally jackin’ himself onto that thing on
a nightly basis and you know it.
I hope Cosette knows about the handkerchief and uses it
against him for the rest of his life, I really do. I hope she’ll save that
little piece of information for the first time she has a fight with him; I want
her to whip it out as ammo whenever she’s pissed off at him and say “Oh by the
way, you were whacking off into my dad’s handkerchief for months you moron!”
3: Banishing Valjean (Both)
Whilst I think this moment was also a moronic act on Valjeans part too I think Marius acted the worst out of the two of them when he found out about Valjean being an ex-con. I still don’t think Valjean should have said anything, but at the same time I don’t think Marius had any right to decide to essentially banish him from his home.
It continues to boggle my mind as to why Marius thought he
had the right to banish Valjean after he revealed his criminal past, I guess I just
find it really hard to see how he thought he could take the moral high ground with
Valjean considering Marius himself is guilty of treason, I know Marius had his
reasons for being at the barricades (as stupid as those reasons were) but to be
honest, I think treason is a worse crime than theft, so Marius should have just
shut his damn mouth.
2: Trying to blow
himself up at the barricade (Both,
but mostly musical)
Oh yes, you know I’ve brought this up before my fellow readers!
I was actually quite pleased when this moment showed up in
the recent movie musical, because it just proved how big a moron he really is.
Did Marius really have nothing else in his life that he was willing to kill himself
because of the loss of a girl he barely knew? He sings about how his life would
be nothing without Cosette, yet his entire life up until that point had been
without her and he seemed to be doing fine. Didn’t it occur to him at any point
to look for Cosette? She couldn’t have left the country in that short amount of
time! Even in the novel it had only been two days since he’d last seen her, she
couldn’t have gotten to England in that time, there was no reason for him to
overreact like he did. Young love is so annoying.
I think Marius must be one of the most overemotional men
I’ve ever encountered in fiction; there are much better ways of dealing with the
loss of your “girlfriend” than by trying to blow yourself up. I really felt
like Marius made a mockery out of the cause the other students were fighting
for when he finally joined their rebellion, he wasn’t really that enthusiastic
about the cause anyway and when he did join his friends it was because his
stupid heart was broken. That is the act of an utter moron!
And yet I don’t think it’s the number one moronic moment,
for I feel there is another even more moronic moment to take the top spot.
And the number one
moment in Les Miserables where Marius acted like a moron is……
1: Failing to stop
The Thenardiers from robbing and nearly murdering Valjean (Novelverse)
This was actually a major plot point that is omitted
completely from the musical, but it shows just how moronic Marius really is.
Basically, at one point The Thenardiers have lured Valjean
into their flat with the intent on robbing him (and possibly killing him too)
and Marius, who is living next door to them, had made a deal with Javert to
sound the alarm when it all goes down. However when Marius finds out that it’s
the same Thenardier who “saved” his father he decides not to do anything about
it because he made a promise to one day find Thenardier and to help him in any
way he could, thus honouring his dead father at the same time.
Yeah I know that all sounds complicated when I say it like
that, but believe me it all makes sense if you’ve read the book.
What makes Marius the most moronic here (wow, that was fun
to say!) is the fact that he wouldn’t do anything to save Valjean when he was
clearly in danger. Just the fact that he even hesitated to do anything makes
him a moron, Yeah I know he had an allegiance to his dead father, but he
clearly could see that Thenardier was planning to hurt Valjean (and by
extension Cosette) so why he even thought this was a dilemma is beyond me.
Thenardier was basically planning on murdering Valjean, the
father of the girl he claimed to love and he was too much of a moron to realise
who he should help! Seriously….what was he going to do? Was he just going to
let Valjean get murdered right in front of him? How would he have explained
that to Cosette? Was he just going to go back to her garden again later that
day and say “Oh sorry I just let your father be murdered because I’m too much
of a moron to know any better, but let’s get married anyway!”
Call me crazy but where I come from when you like a girl you don’t stand by and watch her father get stabbed to death by a known criminal!
Call me crazy but where I come from when you like a girl you don’t stand by and watch her father get stabbed to death by a known criminal!
I understand him wanting to honour his father, but my point is that you can’t
protect those who are already gone, he never even knew anything about his
father and Thenardier was clearly a despicable human being so I just don’t
understand his hesitation one bit. Marius is a moron, and to me he’ll always be
a moron.
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I’m sorry to keep picking on him; I just really truly hate Marius Pontmercy. Maybe
I’m being unfair to him, I know he has some good points as well………I can’t think
of any at the moment though! I know there are people out there who are Les
Miserables fans and like Marius, so if you’re one of those people please get in
contact with me because I’d really like to know what you see in him.
Number 4 is just priceless. Also I can't help you. I am convinced that Marius is the true villain.
ReplyDeleteI know right! I could just slap him!
DeleteI agree with this completely, I was abnoyed at the Thernandier house raid scene but I was willing to forgive him. But the banishing Valjean in the book really got me to hate him. Just the chapter before it was a flashback to Valjean's happy moments with Cosette then he gets banished by Marius and starts calling Cosette "Madame". I was so frustrated, then to add up to that he decides to give the Thernandiers money.
ReplyDeleteHe's such an idiot
DeleteThis post is everything to me at the moment! Trying to describe to my friend whose only seen the musical where Marius comes off as a stupid but nice guy, what an absolute twat he is. I also personally thought he was an even bigger moron when he was trying to "woo" Cosette by staring at her in the park from behind bushes and statues and following her home and standing under her window all night as you do. It's no wonder Jean Valjean moved pretty quickly once he found out Marius was following them!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for reading it. As you might notice i'm not active on this blog anymore but i'm keeping it up for anyone to see and enjoy. I still get notified when people comment so i dont ignore it.
DeleteI mean never say never, one day there might be a new Les Miserables thing to talk about.
Thanks again for reading, Marius is a moron!!
I didn't like the bit where Marius was so cruel to his grandfather. I know Gillenormand had lied to him and done bad things, making Marius's father suffer for so long, but there is such a thing as forgiveness. Gillenormand was a very old man and it was obvious (to anyone other than Marius) that he adored him.
ReplyDeleteI hate the b! he took away Jean Valjean's happiness and I do not forgive him!
ReplyDeleteI think you're really unjust to Marius.
ReplyDeleteI dont know why everyone is like this. They also hate Cosette for some reason.
1. They think Eponine is some God and whoever she wants she should have. I'm not saying I dont like Eponine, I like all the characters except Thenardier woman, but the girl is a really selfish person who reveals herself to be some sort of yandere. Oh she saved his life, well this is like calling Avengers heroes for defeating Ultron. She is a nice girl, but unlucky, that's OK.
2.Marius sending away Jean. If I remember correctly , all he says is "I'm the lifer Jean Valjean ". Marius obviously thinks him as some guy like Patron-Minette or whatever, who would want a murderer in the house? One can be good without being the Bishop of D--
3. Marius vacillating while watching the assassination of Jean Valjean: First of all he dropped eponines note and saved him. Second he was prepared to fire the pistol. Third he was the one, at considerable risk to himself, who warned Javert. Of course he might be a bit shocked that this thug is his father's saviour.
4. Why Marius didn't go home? I think you need to read his backstory. He has no father and mother. He is told that his father is a black guard,that saberer, that blood drinker,etc and that he doesnt love him. He is kept separated from his father because of M.Gillenormands obstinacy. And then he finds out that this is all nonsense and his father was a wonderful man. First of all I myself would not tolerate my grandfather insulting my mom, and I would never step again in his house(what grandparents without parents) and second the grandfather didnt even apologize. He continued to abuse his father
I have the deepest respect towards Marius for just this.that he didnt capitulate and go home, where the bread would have turned to ash in his mouth.
And anybody who worked as hard as he did deserves the respect. You dont call it moronic to throw aside your principle, even if erroneous, THAT is the whole message of Les Mis which has been said so many times, with respect to Petit Picpus, To Louis Phillippe, to the French Revolution, to the people in the caverns etc.It may be erroneous, but they are still glorious. Going back to his grandfather, he would be like Thenardier, you dont need money, you need self respect(why does Jean love Bishop of D--? Precisely. )
Thanks for your rebuttal, i'm sure both our opinions are valid but you're right I am unjust to Marius.
DeleteI just dont like him!
Also, I dont think Marius was too shocked about the handkerchief right then. It was probably too much after the Thenardier reveal. Later tho....huhuhu
ReplyDeleteI finshed reading the novel today, and my first reaction has been to google 'Marius from les miserables is a c*nt'. That should tell you everything about my feelings about him, for much the same reasons as you.
ReplyDeletePleased to see that others feel the same way about this ungrateful little bitch! Jean and Cossette deserved better.
I just finished reading the book, and honestly, that character almost ruined the entire book for me, I despise him, especially after reading that ending, wow.
ReplyDeleteAnother moronic moment, Marius being angry at Cosette because her skirt got lifted up by the wind.
THANK YOU, Brandon Michelle! I found your website when I googled "was marius an idiot in les miserables". I'm a noob, and cracked open the book (abridged) for the first time this year. Never knew a thing about the story, or the characters. All I knew was that it's a popular musical.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm reading, and jotting down my thoughts. Then I hit Marius and his complete idiocy in staring through the wall at Valjean being mugged by the Thenns (<my abbreviation. They are not worthy of being spelled out in full) and their thuglife pals. They've got a hot poker (to torture him for money). Marius has a pistol to summon the cops... and he's torn? He somehow thinks that enabling crime and torture is paying it forward for his dead Daddy? Or maybe he should put a stop to this? What to do? What to do?
WHY IS THIS EVEN A DILEMMA?
Isn't Marius supposed to be one of the good guys? Why is he such a dumbass?
I am willing to give Marius somewhat of a break when he ghosted Valjean and applied pressure to his new wifey, Cosette to also ghost *the only decent parental figure she ever had*. In a way Valjean asked for it. Marius did a decent thing and offered Grandpa's help in obtaining a pardon for Valjean, but Valjean turned him down. Valjean seemed to have given up on life already, and was willing to slink away and gradually become less and less involved with Cosette until there was no contact at all. WHY??? With a pardon, he could have been part of her life. Or is the message, "Parents, once your offspring are married off, you have no more use or purpose in life, so go and shrivel up and die."
Why wouldn't he think that Cosette would still love him and want him to be involved with her life?